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Recent updates to the main page

Notices looks like a very outdated page, I don't even think the errors are even the same. For the most part of it seems like it could be replaced with Help, I'm banned?!, at least on the Main Page's FAQ section (especially if the beginning of Help, I'm banned?! was expanded a bit to talk more about akills/klines instead of a one-liner pointing to

(Connection/Session Limit Exemptions could also probably be more descriptive too)

Links to scanner/anti virus softwares seems a bit excessive, and offtopic to Rizon, but it's nicely formatted, gives a bunch of links to AVs, etc. there are errors in it that could be fixed, such as things like

If all these steps fail to remove the infection, you should consider using this service to help you remove the infection. "this service" ??

Anyway, it doesn't seem like a Frequently asked question really, and should probably be organized in some other thing, like if there were to be a "Security" section on the main page, linking to pages about setting up Nickserv for setting quick kills, using certfp, making a channel more secure, etc.

Disable JOIN and PART Messages seems like a really specific FAQ to just put there out of only 4 FAQ things, but *okay*, it sort of is a FAQ after all.

Jan 19:17, 3 February 2013 (EST)

I was told to make the wiki into the faq, if you don't like my format, that's your perogative

- Iota

Well by seeing what you're doing it looks more like they told you "copy and paste from the forum's stuff even if the information is outdated or irrelevant," but anyway, thanks for responding; usually when I do this type of stuff I get ignored and try a couple more times, before I just go on with whatever I was going to do, then get slapped+reverted, or my edits get kept. (or slapped, reverted, then my edits redone+more!)

So yeah I guess just continue and then maybe Silverfin will go update it or whatever. You might want to check out this cheat sheet for stuff like using ~~~~ to do signatures on talk pages.

Jan 20:26, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Noted and bookmarked.

Iota.spencer 20:38, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Honestly, all you (Read: Iota) have done is copy/paste (add add the appropriate wiki formatting) from the Rizon forums - which is fine in itself. However (as we 'discussed' in PM briefly), some of those posts are 5+ years old; this information is very outdated and also informal, something that (IMO) shouldn't be linked to from the main page. For example, with the new Links_to_scanner/anti_virus_softwares page, the user reading is left completely unaware about what the actual page is about - it's only until you get to the last line that the reasoning for the page is shown, and even then, it's not exactly specific.

I don't think the issue is the formatting (although, honestly, it's quite hard to classify irc_conf_mode as a "frequently asked question", but that's besides the point), more of a "why is this even being added" sort of thing. Should things like Notices really be put on the wiki? Does this "fastweb" company even exist any more? Google seems to indicate it's some sort of scholarship search engine - how on earth this would be relevant to an IRC network is beyond me.

Additionally, the whole "if you don't like it, then tough" argument really should not be used on a public wiki... if the majority of users thing something should be changed, then it should be changed.

Silverfin 20:54, 3 February 2013 (EST)

As a wiki is, if you want to change something, you're free to o.o I also never said "if you don't like it, then tough" as said, you may change something as you feel like it. "Please note that all contributions to Rizon Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors."

Iota.spencer 21:12, 3 February 2013 (EST)